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Heartbreaking for Baby Charlie Gard and his family and shameful for Mike Pence and those who would stoop so low as to use them as a political / ideological football .
In light of updated tests and clinical findings the family have decided to remove life support and move Baby Charlie to hospice care , he is expected to expire by Friday.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/ch...-legal-battle/
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This is not surprising, given pretty much everything Trump and the Republican leadership have said about Obamacare repeal has been blatant lies https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...e-repeal-lying
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Excellent Vox article ,filghty2.
Indeed , the Republican drive to repeal and replace Obamacare has exposed a system in deep trouble . A chief executive who tells us he sits in the Oval Office ," pen in hand" , ready to sign legislation which he makes no attempt to explain or support and House and Senate Republicans ready to pass a bill which they neither understand nor support ;which will create life and death policy affecting millions of Americans.
"Things fall apart;the centre cannot hold ..."
I think Stavros started this thread, with prescient focus on Mike Pence, knowing that he could well have called it "The President Mike Pence Thread". Since that is certainly where we are headed.
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The VOX article was indeed a scorching judgemet, but I think Ezra Klein missed the trick that McCain pulled. He voted to continue the process knowing that in procedural terms if it was voted down after subsequent debates and votes, it would be killed -thus he took one step back to enable the process to meet its end, knowing he would have the power to kill it. You will have to decide if this is his revenge for the insults and abuse that Trump dished out to him over the last year, although so far the President has attacked Lisa Murkowski while her Republican partner in the Senate, Dan Sullivan claims Ryan Zinke, Interior Secretary has threatened to punish Alaska for her vote with the implication that Federal permission for drilling rights or other energy related policies will not be given.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...amacare-repeal
I don't know about Mike Pence's future, but it is there for all to predict. What I find 'intriguing' is the man's public declarations of his Christian faith, and some of the peculiarities this brings to his behaviour -such as not being alone in a room with a woman who is not his wife or relative. You might think that is the opposite of what we assume about his boss, but it is eerily not so far from those Muslims or Orthodox Jews who are also reluctant to place themselves in close proximity to women, be it in rooms, aeroplanes, buses or even streets. Yet does this say more about his fear of his own -uncontrollable?- desire than it does about women?
He also strikes me as being very dull, which might be an asset after the relentless publicity mania of the President and his new Press wallah becomes too much, even for Republicans.
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Hmmm, not sure how I managed to post that twice. In the meantime we learn that senior members of the Administration attend Bible Study sessions led by Ralph Drollinger of Capitol Ministries-
Regular attendees include Education Secretary Betsy DeVos, Energy Secretary Rick Perry, Agriculture Secretary Sunny Perdue, CIA Director Mike Pompeo and Attorney General Jeff Sessions.
Mike Pence is a regular when he has time, but this priceless remark by Drollinger had me laughing over my breakfast this morning-
Mr Drollinger heaped praise on Vice President Mike Pence who is known for his profoundly conservative views on marriage equality and LGBT rights and record of supporting the widely discredited practice of gay conversion therapy.
"Mike Pence has respect for the office. He dresses right - like it says Joseph cleaned himself up before he went to stand before the Pharaoh," he said.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7871556.html
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I'm forever amazed at how GOP officials who advocate the most vile policies against the poor and underprivileged seem odsessesed with publicly displaying their Christianity. I am an agnostic but I hope they're right about the existence of eternal hell, a place they're surely headed. Of course agnostics won't fare any better but at least we're not hypocrites.
As for Pence, his ideology almost makes Trump's look humane. But I accept him as less disgusting to look at every day so I pray that Trump will be forced out of office prematurely.
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Very glad that a rock like Mike Pence is one heartbeat away from the presidency, rather than a loony bird like Tim Kaine.
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Yeah. Pence would be like a rock of crack cocaine. We'd grow even more paranoid, women's rights would die on the vine, being transgendered in the 'wrong' rest room would be regarded as a criminal transgression against the 'Christian foundations of the nation,' and the separation of Church and State would go down the toilet. What would suffer most are the heart, liver and kidneys of our democracy. Remember kids, don't do Pence. It's just like Trump, only better focused.
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And Mike Pence is a Republican, whereas...
Trump is a Democrat working undercover.He's not just any Dem, though. He's a bitterly scheming, conniving one who will go to any lengths, even sacrificing his own dignity, to bring the Republican establishment down.
Pay no attention to that June tweet in which he called Democrats "obstructionists." Ignore that picture he tweeted in March of Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer with Russian President Vladimir Putin from 2003, calling the Democrat a "total hypocrite" and demanding an investigation.
Those were just distractions. Trump's real target is the Republican Party. House Speaker Paul Ryan and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell are at the top of his hit list. And they have plenty of reasons to be scared.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/c...06-column.html