Do nice guys finish last?

[Jamie French]

@ goatman: Not even reading your posts. I have the last word.

[goatman]

@ goatman: Not even reading your posts. I have the last word.

And THIS BENEFITS YOU, how exactly?
Fine, lemme see if I can find a trophy...
Oh, WAIT.

[Jamie French]

@ goatman: Not even reading your posts. I have the last word.

And THIS BENEFITS YOU, how exactly?
Fine, lemme see if I can find a trophy...
Oh, WAIT.

[robertlouis]

No one thinks that being nice is a poor trait, but if it's your only trait and you take the time to complain about it then you're a shitty under-developed person with no real self awareness or genuine empathy.

Totally nailed it, Jamie. A nice guy with a decent serving of assertiveness usually does ok. It's served me pretty well over the years anyway, he said smugly.

And diehard one-track "bad boys" all too often end up abusing their partners because it's the only way they know.

[trish]

... There are only like 20 or so different personality types...

Since we've settled the main issue of this thread, I feel free to take up a side issue: the number of distinct personality types. My friends in Astrology tell me that traditionally there are 16 celestial bodies that influence and determine an individual's personality. These influences are shaped by the Zodiacal sector that houses the body at birth. Since there are 12 houses, there are 12 to the 16th power personality types; i.e. over 180 quadrillion basic personalities. Given there are only about 7 billion people on the planet, it's very likely each of us has a unique personality. Unfortunately, astrology is entirely hokum.

[EvaCassini]

Unfortunately, astrology is entirely hokum.

[trish]

Great vids. What I was getting at is the number of factors that enter into characterizing a personality. Astrology has a paucity of factors and none of them are relevant. But here on Earth it seems to me there have got to be more than 16 factors that influence personality, even if they're terrestrial factors rather than celestial (e.g. economic class, educational opportunity, parental expectations, etc. ) and surely each of these factors can be present in varying degrees or levels (e.g. levels of family income can be used to describe economic class). Suppose we can divide each factor into 12 degrees of presence or levels of intensity. Than there are again 12 to the 16 many possible personality types. Once again over 1.8 quadrillion. More than enough for us all to be distinctly unique.

[EvaCassini]

One person could have a unique personality but most of the traits within that person are shared throughout millions.

[be2378]

Yes nice guys finished last, even Green Day wrote a song about it. It's true most girls want a bad ass over a nice guy. They only want a nice guy to walk all over, like a bad rug at ikea.

[trish]

Very true. Let's say we really only need to keep track of say 20 traits. A given person may not have the trait at all, or have it to a low degree, a medium degree or to a high degree. Then there are 4 to the 20 th power possible personality types based on our coarse graining (hi, medium, low or none). That would be over a trillion possible personalities. Still enough to make it likely that we fall into unique categories.