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02-27-2003 #1
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Transsexuals in the Mainstream
What do you guys think it will take for tgirls to be... I don't know the word I'm looking for, but (for lack of a better one) I will use "accepted?"
Sure, Gia did Hustler, and the TS porn industry is apparently huge, but what will it take for more men to come out in the open about their love for these women?
Will we ever see our lovely ladies headline Hollywood blockbusters?
Sorry if the post is a little jumbled, but you get the idea...
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03-01-2003 #2
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honey i dont think transexualk will be accepted until ghays are accepted. honey people think transexuals are gay men and id ontt hink this misconception is going away anytime soon. and if a ts is going to be a movie star, she'd have to be in deep stealth, meaning nobody knows she is a ts, be it as an escort or otherwise.
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03-02-2003 #3
I agree with what she said. TS's won't be accepted into the mainstream anytime soon. Gay's are barely gaining acceptance, and TS's are portrayed as worse than gays. Then you add shows like Jerry Springer and you have the public forming extreme negative perceptions about transgendered people. We'd probably have a female president way before a transexual is accepted into the mainstream, an not as some sort of "freak of the moment".
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03-05-2003 #4
unless she is like this....
najwa....simply the best!
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02-06-2005 #5
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In roads are being made, yet many are still seen as oddities etc. Yet Vanity currently appears in a small role in an independant film called "The Chick Magnet" and Diva's bartender Cassandra appeared on the 100th episode of CSI.
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02-06-2005 #6
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There are many things that need to happen before a TS will be staring along side of Harrison Ford and Ben Affleck.
First of all, the tone of the country has to change. Right now, the country is scared. We have a president that plays on that fear. We are afraid of terrorists, Social Security, Howard Stern and Janet Jackson's boob. There is a cry to return to "moral values" and religion. Hollywood, I don't think, will be taking the risk to have a TS star in a major motion picture with this climate.
I also don't know how Hollywood and the straight world will accept a TS mainstream movie star with a porn and/or escort background. I think it's a double edged sword. Miriam was "discovered" for her show by escorting. But I think they tried to downplay or hide the porn and escorting she did. Either way, there are pros and cons to having that kind of background.
Second, if there ever is a TS that will breakout, she must be beautiful. This is nothing new in terms of Hollywood. It's the same for GG's. There are very few average or ugly people on screen, and if they are, they are character actors or the "bad guys". She must look so feminine that even straight people will look at her and say "Well, she looks and acts so much like a girl, I can see why she would need to be that way."
Third, if Hollywood wants you to play an average "female" part, they would probably just hire a GG. Otherwise, what's the point? I myself, have been asked about doing certain things for television, but they always want me to out myself at the end. "Surprise! I'm really a guy!" So far, I have turned them down just because of the "freak factor". Right now, that seems to be the majority of the rolls TS's get on screen.
Fourth, basic acting ability. As good as she looked, even Cindy Crawford's one time movie role bombed because she just couldn't act. Yes, some people have natural ability, but not everyone. I don't see too many TS's going to auditions and taking acting classes and so on. It's a huge lottery for GG's to make it in Hollywood. Even more so for TS's. That's not to say TS's shouldn't try!!! Somebody has to make it. Someday someone will. Probably independent films will be the best chance to start off with.
I have hope though. Every once in awhile you see a TS in a movie. Eva Robbins, Bibi Anderson, etc.... Europe seems a bit more open to the possibilities.
Anyway, those are just some thoughts. I'm sure I'll think of more. LOL
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02-06-2005 #7
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I don't think it's as hard as for any actor, being transgender or not, you just have to meet the right people and make the connections, Vanitty is getting up there when it comes to MainStream Media, you really just have to network, get a good agent and hustle your way to the top untill you are discovered.
I just finished a movie with Sandra Bullock, I was an extra but agin I was hired as a TS/Female Impersonator...The movie is "Miss Conginiality 2" I was pertraying "CHER" so....If you happend to go watch this movie it comes out March 18th, I believe....I can't wait to see if I made the cut...
Here is a picture from shooting day...
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02-06-2005 #8
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Congrats on the role Danielle. As you said though most T's seem to be playing roles as female impersonators, or use a butch voice and are mad fun of. Just don't accept roles that put T's in a bad light. You look great as Cher though. The female impersonator thing is OK in my eyes but the butch thing is eeeeeh. It seems that in the past it's the T in the film is out to decieve men into having sex with them, or they are dating a gay guy. Gay men are not attracted to T's, I myself have never been attracted to a man, and love T's as it is beauty I enjoy.
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02-07-2005 #9
Danielle, you make an awesome Cher! I think I would be fooled in real life, unless she was standing next to you. Did you do your own makeup for that?
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02-07-2005 #10
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I believe most of the posts seem to believe the mainstrem is Show Business. I think all of us will agree that in 95% of our lives it is not. To me mainstream is people I see and work with everyday. If you mean show business it is coming around. There is more in the background than you know. There were and have been TS semi major stars since the 50's. I will not out prople, but I know it as a fact from my research for magazine articles. There are 100's of stealth ladies doing every typr of job imaginable. There are some amazing ladies that are out and are totally accepted in there roles. The show business world is held back not by acceptance of the ts. Look at Crying game and Soliders story, but the search for the $$. If there was a decent TS actress and a good script believe me it would be made. There are a few sort of in the works that were batted around at Sundance. To many stars like "TC" have to many ghosts in there closet to work with a TS and as the "Working girls" in LA know there is no shortage of major stars into TS's.