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07-23-2012 #201
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Re: Mass Shooting at DK premiere in CO!
"...I no longer believe that people's secrets are defined and communicable, or their feelings full-blown and easy to recognize."_Alice Munro, Chaddeleys and Flemings.
"...the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way". _Judge Holden, Cormac McCarthy's, BLOOD MERIDIAN.
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07-23-2012 #202
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Re: Mass Shooting at DK premiere in CO!
There is NO LEGAL GUN OWNERSHIP in Washington, DC. At least there wasn't until the recent lawsuit by the name of Heller vs. D.C. which was decided by the U.S. Supreme Court.
Heller, the lead Plaintiff in the lawsuit, was a Special Police Officer at the U.S. Supreme Court Library. He wasn't some 'ordinary Joe'. He was trained and was armed while at work. But, Washington, D.C. wouldn't give him a license to carry his gun when he went home.
Chicago, until the recent decision of McDonald vs. Chicago, didn't allow any civilian to own a gun in his own home. Again, not even in his own home. McDonald, the plaintiff who wanted to protect himself in his home in 'a bad part of town' was in his 60's or 70's and never had trouble in the law. As of today, Chicago still don't allow ANY civilian to carry a weapon on the street.
The laws of D.C. and Chicago is one of the reasons why 'gun rights' people don't trust 'gun control' people when they speak of 'passing reasonable gun control legislation'. In Chicago and D.C. 'reasonable' was determined to be a complete ban. Those 2 cities have a lot of gun violence, with not 1 legal gun on the street.
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07-23-2012 #203
Re: Mass Shooting at DK premiere in CO!
Anyone who ever says this after a shot is fired deserves to have the next one hit them in the forehead. Like I said, if your going to own a gun and have children, educate them. If you pick up a weapon you always check for ammunition, period. No adult who isn't a child mentally would ever say that, and no child who isn't mature enough should be allowed access to firearms. Anyone who uses "I didn't know it was loaded." is full of shit or was failed by an adult who should be held responsible in their place.
Eat a dick.
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07-23-2012 #204
Re: Mass Shooting at DK premiere in CO!
Umm no. The Second Ammendment is quite clear: "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State (Each State used to have it's own militia. The closest modern equivalient we have is the National Guard. These State Guard units were for all intents and purpposes private armies that the governors could call upon to deal with civil disorder, incursions, securing the State's borders, etc.), the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed (it doesn't say the right of the militia, it says the right of the people)."
And as for your statement that it was never intended that the citizens should be able to rise up in revolt against the government; firstly, in the Declatation of Independence it says, "...That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, ..." The Founding Fathers envisioned a day when the very government they were forming would turn against it's citizens. Furthermore, the wording of the Second Ammendment gives the people, not the militia. (BTW the militia mentioned in this ammendment doesn't really concern the Army which was already established in the Constitution.) It only mentions that the militia should be well regulated while giving the people the individual right to own and possess firearms.
Just because I'm telling you this story doesn't mean that I'm alive at the end of it.
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07-23-2012 #205
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07-23-2012 #206
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Re: Mass Shooting at DK premiere in CO!
In high school, one of the twins I had known since he was a little kid shot himself to death.playing Russian roulette. In elementary school, my buddy two doors down shot himself accidentally. Twice. Years later his big brother shot a hole in his leg with a .45 and had to crawl a long ways through the woods, bleeding profusely. The safety had been on. The cop actually shot it off again in the house with the safety on.
Moral of the story: Guns are Dangerous!!!!
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07-24-2012 #207
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Re: Mass Shooting at DK premiere in CO!
Umm no. The Second Ammendment is quite clear:
And as for your statement that it was never intended that the citizens should be able to rise up in revolt against the government
Last edited by trish; 07-24-2012 at 12:22 AM.
"...I no longer believe that people's secrets are defined and communicable, or their feelings full-blown and easy to recognize."_Alice Munro, Chaddeleys and Flemings.
"...the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way". _Judge Holden, Cormac McCarthy's, BLOOD MERIDIAN.
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07-24-2012 #208
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07-24-2012 #209
Re: Mass Shooting at DK premiere in CO!
This is actually a known fact. The founding fathers may have lived in another time, but they knew just about as much about tyranny and corruption as anyone today. They foresaw the possibility that the institution they were establishing could be used against the people just like any other ruling party throughout history. So in plain language, they stated their wish that were such a time to ever come the people uphold the same obligation they themselves felt during their fight for independence. They wanted to ensure that the government they bled to create would always be used to serve the people, and that the people it was founded to protect would never be oppressed by the governments whim.
Eat a dick.
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07-24-2012 #210
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Re: Mass Shooting at DK premiere in CO!
They wanted to ensure that the government they bled to create would always be used to serve the people...
The Declaration gives the then British citizens in the colonies rousing arguments to rise up against Britain. When those words were written the U.S. didn't exist yet. The 2nd Amendment to the Constitution does not explicitly harken back to those words in the Declaration. It would have been easy to explicitly write down such a connection when composing the 2nd Amendment. The writers chose not to.
Very little is clear when it comes to the 2nd Amendment's raison d'etre. It is the courts that need to apply that interpret it and provide the current intent of the Amendment. None of those precedents (as far as I know) entail the need for U.S. citizens to defend themselves against the U.S. government or to overthrow said government.
Last edited by trish; 07-24-2012 at 01:04 AM.
"...I no longer believe that people's secrets are defined and communicable, or their feelings full-blown and easy to recognize."_Alice Munro, Chaddeleys and Flemings.
"...the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way". _Judge Holden, Cormac McCarthy's, BLOOD MERIDIAN.
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