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03-06-2013 #201
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"...I no longer believe that people's secrets are defined and communicable, or their feelings full-blown and easy to recognize."_Alice Munro, Chaddeleys and Flemings.
"...the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way". _Judge Holden, Cormac McCarthy's, BLOOD MERIDIAN.
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03-06-2013 #202
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Re: Male student gang raped by muslim youth
I think the difference in the USA is that first nations aside, everyone has an immigrant heritage, whereas there are people in the UK who claim some sort of kinship with the original inhabitants of this island -ok so they are mostly readers of the Daily Telegraph but I once suggested in a comment in that organ that a poster would not be happy unless everything from the Roman Invasion onwards was reversed, and he agreed!
When I was studying US political history there was a spate of articles that contasted the 'melting pot' with 'Balkanisation' and the tendency of some Americans to emphasise their heritage, by calling themselves Italian-American, Polish-American, and so on. I don't know what happened to that debate, and it probably only has any resonance in regions which were inhabited by immigrants from one part of the world, such as those parts of the mid-west that Scandinavians (perhaps even more specifically, Swedes) went to, as documented with poetic feeling by Willa Cather in O Pioneers! and My Antonia. And of course, neighbourhoods in cities, such as the North End in Boston, or Harlem in New York City. Yet even these change; I understand that parts of Harlem that were exclusively (and proudly) Black have been 'taken over' by non-Black people, and that it is the demand for property that has fuelled these changes. Does Spanish Harlem still exist?
As for multi-culturalism, it is reality and has been for centuries. I once suggested to someone, again in the Daily Telegraph that fish 'n chips was immigrant food and a multicultural phenomenon because potatoes came to us from the New World; ditto tea and coffee -I was ridiculed. But I still like fish 'n chips...can I now rest easy that this thead is well and truly dead?
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