Dilemma

[Bribi]

Why being scared of being considered gay?
First, if you also go with GG, you'd not be gay but bi.
And then, f- people, like what you like.
And people don't necessarily have to know that you tried it with a TG or a guy. So they couldn't consider you gay or whatever. You can have you secrets too.

[tgirlluver234]

Thanks I know defo not gay cause Im into GG its just trying to get my head around enjoying looking at girls with cocks, it a real turn on and alot Of TG are amazing looking

[MacShreach]

Why being scared of being considered gay?
First, if you also go with GG, you'd not be gay but bi.
And then, f- people, like what you like.
And people don't necessarily have to know that you tried it with a TG or a guy. So they couldn't consider you gay or whatever. You can have you secrets too.

I agree about why would it bother anyone, though not everyone lives in such enlightened parts; there are places where being identified as 'gay' is downright dangerous.

But I'm not so sure about the 'bi' bit, although it's a popular idea. The standard Western definition of 'bisexual' is someone who is attracted to people of either the same or opposite genders. So for a man, that would be, attracted to both men and women. However, only a very few men attracted to transwomen are also attracted to men. Most pretty much exclusively like women, of either type. They are attracted to typical feminine sexual characteristics.

Now I am not, (and never have done) suggesting that transattracted men are 100% 'straight' in the generally accepted sense, including myself. (Would anyone want to be?) Transattraction appears to be a compeletely separate sexual orientation which is usually linked to heterosexuality. In this it is similar to autogynephilia, which also exists in parallel with heterosexuality, and the logic is similar. Just as you can't be autogynephilic unless you are gynephilc (attracted to women) first, you can't be attracted to transwomen unless you are attracted to women.

I suspect the fact that transattraction just won't fit inside a conventional hetero/bi/homo model of sexuality is why there is so much discussion of it on boards like this one.

[MacShreach]

Thanks I know defo not gay cause Im into GG its just trying to get my head around enjoying looking at girls with cocks, it a real turn on and alot Of TG are amazing looking

See my last, you're not gay, and welcome to the club.

[Bribi]

And that's why I hate labels.
Each person is different.
Some men like women, some like men, some like women who looks like men, some like TG, some like women and TG,... Same with girls.
So the labels straight/gay/bi is so lame.
Just enjoy what you enjoy. Don't forbid yourself something because you think it's this or that.

I also understand, I mean, at the beginning, I was ashamed of liking TG. I was like "man, what's with me?" And it's something really hard to avoid when you start things not "common" not... hm... don't have the word. No matter how it's done, you are almost always raised by the guy goes with girls. Girls have vagina. Guys have penis. So when you take an other road it's very hard to be proud of it or at least enjoy it with no problem.
And one day I realized that after all, why not, people don't necessarily have to know, it's something I like, so what not enjoy it. But I know a lot of people are way comfortable with this than me.

I just try to show you that if you want to try it, go for it. You don't like it, you don't like it. But if you like, I think you'll be glad to have tried it!

PS: damn my posts could be so much shorter if I could express myself correctly

[Prospero]

Going on about it in your head just turns transgendered folks into something other than human. They (we) are people - just fuck 'em or don't. It's not something worth loosing sleep over. Flesh is flesh, is flesh.

Eva says it very clearly. Just go for it. They are - in many cases - very lovely women and the sex can be sensational.

[MacShreach]

And that's why I hate labels.
Each person is different.
Some men like women, some like men, some like women who looks like men, some like TG, some like women and TG,... Same with girls.
So the labels straight/gay/bi is so lame.
Just enjoy what you enjoy. Don't forbid yourself something because you think it's this or that.

I also understand, I mean, at the beginning, I was ashamed of liking TG. I was like "man, what's with me?" And it's something really hard to avoid when you start things not "common" not... hm... don't have the word. No matter how it's done, you are almost always raised by the guy goes with girls. Girls have vagina. Guys have penis. So when you take an other road it's very hard to be proud of it or at least enjoy it with no problem.
And one day I realized that after all, why not, people don't necessarily have to know, it's something I like, so what not enjoy it. But I know a lot of people are way comfortable with this than me.

I just try to show you that if you want to try it, go for it. You don't like it, you don't like it. But if you like, I think you'll be glad to have tried it!

PS: damn my posts could be so much shorter if I could express myself correctly

You express yourself fine. You just need to get your head round this:

Some girls have penises, and some guys have vaginas.

[Bribi]

I was talking about the ideas around you when you grow up (told you I was not expressing myself well )
Even when nobody really tells you thisy, you grow in an environment that makes you understand that guys have penis, girls have vagina, and guys go with girls!
That's why when you like a girl with a penis or 2 guys together, you freak out.

[amberskyi]

Let go of the whole "am I gay?" thing. If you were gay, you probably would already have made some clandestine visits to the bath house or hooked up online.

As for the tgirls: GO FOR IT!!!!! But I suggest NOT starting with an escort. You will be much better off hooking up with someone who is in it for pleasure and not money.

Wrong!, so some innocent girl has to deal with his first time anxieties and insecurities.not very fair to the girl.
start out with escorts as the won't care and figure out if it's even something your into.

[MacShreach]

Wrong!, so some innocent girl has to deal with his first time anxieties and insecurities.not very fair to the girl.
start out with escorts as the won't care and figure out if it's even something your into.

Yeah I think the emotions of women have to be protected from the experiments of male adventurers. I think that's true of all women but more so of transwomen, who are often insecure (not saying you are at all). So yeah, if it's just about sex. Go p4p till you figure out if you can even handle it. That way, no promises, no lies, no broken hearts.