The FAST Approaching Gun Ban

[trish]

In 2009, NRA lobbyists got a legislation to allow Carry in National Parks added onto the Credit Card Accountability Responsibility and Disclosure Act. It was signed into law by President Obama. A three year old girl from Idaho was the first child to have died as a consequence of this law.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...kesman-al-nash

Dying from a gunshot is a violent way to go. We in the U.S. live in violent times. Our intentional gun-related homicide rate in 2010 was 2.97 per 100000 persons. The CDC doesn't have more recent statistics because NRA lobbyists pressed the passage of laws that forbid the CDC from researching gun violence in the U.S. We can only presume the NRA is afraid of the truth. The NRA also backed legislation to exempt firearms from product protection laws. If one child dies because of a faulty crib design, the crib is taken off the market. If 20 first and second graders, or a child in Yellowstone or any of the children mentioned in http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/29/us...&smid=pl-share , nothing happens. Even blind people have the right to concealed carry some places in the U.S. You can't make this shit up! Thank you NRA.

The 2012 intentional homicide rate in England was 0.07 per 100 000 persons. But golly-gee England and the U.S. are apples and oranges. You can't compare them. Sure you can. Here's how. If you visit England the chances that you'll die of an intentionally fired gunshot wound is 0.07 out of 100 000. In the U.S. your chances of getting killed by an intentionally fired bullet is 42 times higher. ( http://www.theguardian.com/news/data...hip-world-list )

Just because our homicide rate went down a bit over the last couple of decades doesn't mean guns aren't a problem. People (including children) are injured, maimed or killed everyday in the U.S. by firearms. Gun accidents are a tangible problem as are suicides by gun.

Yet we have gun enthusiasts claiming simultaneously the U.S. is not violent, guns aren't a problem and we need to carry guns on our persons at all times (even in National Parks, on playgrounds and in schools) because we have to protect ourselves from violent persons carrying guns. See the problem?

Don't take your gun to town, son, leave your gun at home. Put a trigger lock on it, and lock in a cabinet. Better yet, just get rid of thing, it only increases the chance that you or a family member will be killed by it.

[volkov2006]

Don't forget that the NRA also lobbied to allow people on the terrorist watch list the right to purchase and own a gun whether that person should have been on the list or not is another thing. But if we are in 'a war on terror' why would we want to allow our so called 'enemies' the right to own a firearm?

Also Mr. La Pierre said that at Sandy Hook there should have been a good guy with a gun, then at the Navy Yard he said there were not enough good guys with guns. Mr. La Pierre's answers for all of these gun deaths is the same more guns, but that always comes after someone dies, why cant we prevent the shooting? What is his answer to that? Not to mention that the Navy Yard shooter killed at least one security guard and took his weapon, was he not a good guy? So would Mr. La Pierre what to go to his family and tell them he is a criminal and had he been a better person he could have stopped the shooter?

Let us also not forget that there was an armed guard at Columbine and that did not stop anything. I have also heard of stories from schools that do have armed guards about how they sometimes forget to lock the safes, or they just forget it in the restroom or wherever.

People say that we should not compare the US with other countries, until we do. We compare ourselves with them all the time by saying that we have more 'freedoms' then other countries, but lets just leave out the bad stuff shall we. Because in 'Merica WERE #1, except in education, healthcare, freedom of the press, and other things that are either rights every person should have regardless of race, gender, or nationality, or things people say is our "'Merican 'freedom'".

How many more have to die before we do something to prevent it from happening again? If Sandy Hook is not it then I don't want to know what it will take to stop the killing.

We as a country say we defeated the Nazis because they were killing millions, we invaded Iraq because they were killing their own people and we almost went to war with Syria because they are killing their own people. Who is going to intervene to stop us from killing each other. I understand that those situations were done by the government against the people, but in this country the NRA has bought the government so they are just as much killing us a we are ourselves.

[notdrunk]

In 2009, NRA lobbyists got a legislation to allow Carry in National Parks added onto the Credit Card Accountability Responsibility and Disclosure Act. It was signed into law by President Obama. A three year old girl from Idaho was the first child to have died as a consequence of this law.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...kesman-al-nash

Dying from a gunshot is a violent way to go. We in the U.S. live in violent times. Our intentional gun-related homicide rate in 2010 was 2.97 per 100000 persons. The CDC doesn't have more recent statistics because NRA lobbyists pressed the passage of laws that forbid the CDC from researching gun violence in the U.S. We can only presume the NRA is afraid of the truth. The NRA also backed legislation to exempt firearms from product protection laws. If one child dies because of a faulty crib design, the crib is taken off the market. If 20 first and second graders, or a child in Yellowstone or any of the children mentioned in http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/29/us...&smid=pl-share , nothing happens. Even blind people have the right to concealed carry some places in the U.S. You can't make this shit up! Thank you NRA.

The 2012 intentional homicide rate in England was 0.07 per 100 000 persons. But golly-gee England and the U.S. are apples and oranges. You can't compare them. Sure you can. Here's how. If you visit England the chances that you'll die of an intentionally fired gunshot wound is 0.07 out of 100 000. In the U.S. your chances of getting killed by an intentionally fired bullet is 42 times higher. ( http://www.theguardian.com/news/data...hip-world-list )

Just because our homicide rate went down a bit over the last couple of decades doesn't mean guns aren't a problem. People (including children) are injured, maimed or killed everyday in the U.S. by firearms. Gun accidents are a tangible problem as are suicides by gun.

Yet we have gun enthusiasts claiming simultaneously the U.S. is not violent, guns aren't a problem and we need to carry guns on our persons at all times (even in National Parks, on playgrounds and in schools) because we have to protect ourselves from violent persons carrying guns. See the problem?

Don't take your gun to town, son, leave your gun at home. Put a trigger lock on it, and lock in a cabinet. Better yet, just get rid of thing, it only increases the chance that you or a family member will be killed by it.

Our homicide rate didn't drop by a bit. In the last two decades, our rate has dropped by more than 50%. You ever though why suicides have gone up in the last decade? But, it is the gun fault!

You mentioned that our gun-related homicide rate in 2010 was 2.97 per 100000 persons. You do realize that you are in fraction territory with that rate? You are more likely to get a STD than be murdered by a firearm in 2010. I guess if you are worried about that fraction of a percent, you don't step outside and live in a bubble.

By the way, you do know the story of Carey McWilliams? I got the feeling that you have no clue. He got his first CCW license in 2001. Currently, he has two CCW licenses (one for Utah and another for North Dakota). He can carry in other states too because of reciprocity.

I forgot to mention that Carey is legally blind. But But, Iowa is giving licenses to blind people. Keep up with the times. It has been going on for more than a decade.

[trish]

I guess if you are worried about that fraction of a percent, you don't step outside and live in a bubble.

Your point is that 20 school children is only 0.02% of 100 000 persons. It's perfectly safe out there. So why do you insist on concealed carry? Is it because of all the other idiots who are secretly carrying too? We have 42 times the intended gun homicides that England has, 42 X.

Iowa is giving licenses to blind people.Keep up with the times. It has been going on for more than a decade.

And that's a good thing?! You can't make this shit up!

[notdrunk]

Your point is that 20 school children is only 0.02% of 100 000 persons. It's perfectly safe out there. So why do you insist on concealed carry? Is it because of all the other idiots who are secretly carrying too? We have 42 times the intended gun homicides that England has, 42 X.

And that's a good thing?! You can't make this shit up!

Concealed carry is a right that can be exercised. Some people exercise the right but most don't exercise the right. Then again, most people don't exercise all their rights. 42X..the horror. I can't wait until you push for the United States to mimic Great Britain's transportation ways. Road fatalities in the US is 12.3 per 100,000 vs. Great Britain's road fatalities is 2.75 per 100,000. Less personal car usage with more public transportation and walking!!!!! It is for the children..of course.

Some blurb about Iowa and the world is coming to the end. However, the practice has been going on for more than a decade without much fan fair. Oh, I forgot that gun control is a popular subject now. Next, you are going to tell me that a man has walked on the moon before!!!!!

[trish]

It is for the children

Indeed it is. Twenty first and second graders lying dead in pools of their own blood. Shot to death. Thank you NRA. 20 is only 0.02% of 100 000. Tell that to the parents, brothers and sisters of the dead.

[Ben]

[yodajazz]

Our homicide rate didn't drop by a bit. In the last two decades, our rate has dropped by more than 50%. You ever though why suicides have gone up in the last decade? But, it is the gun fault!

You mentioned that our gun-related homicide rate in 2010 was 2.97 per 100000 persons. You do realize that you are in fraction territory with that rate? You are more likely to get a STD than be murdered by a firearm in 2010. I guess if you are worried about that fraction of a percent, you don't step outside and live in a bubble.

By the way, you do know the story of Carey McWilliams? I got the feeling that you have no clue. He got his first CCW license in 2001. Currently, he has two CCW licenses (one for Utah and another for North Dakota). He can carry in other states too because of reciprocity.

I forgot to mention that Carey is legally blind. But But, Iowa is giving licenses to blind people. Keep up with the times. It has been going on for more than a decade.

I don't think those are comparable stats. I mean, how people engage in sex with another person, during a given year? I'm attaching a poster, that was probably posted here before. The thinks listed here make better comparisons.

[trish]

Two killed and two injured in a Nevada school shooting today. The shooter (a student) turned the gun on himself and committed suicide. Of course it wasn't the gun's fault. It had every right to be there.

[Silcc69]

Two killed and two injured in a Nevada school shooting today. The shooter (a student) turned the gun on himself and committed suicide. Of course it wasn't the gun's fault. It had every right to be there.

Over/Under for the next big shooting?