I love watching topping because....

[Quiet Reflections]

However, both top and bottom men want to blow ts girls.

just like topping and/or bottoming, sucking dick isn't for everybody. Just because there are a lot of people that enjoy doing it doesn't mean everybody does.

[broncofan]

If the OP is asking are there dudes on this board who prefer to FUCK tgirls instead of bottoming, the answer is YES.

If I had to bet, most of us prefer to fuck than the other way around, we just don't make a scene about it on HA.

The bottoms are more dramatic on this board and love to shout it to the rooftops how much they enjoy getting plowed. Nothing wrong with it.

I agree with what Fred said below you. With all respect I think what you're saying is the opposite of what I've seen here. Often there will be a thread with a poll. The poll will say that most of the men prefer to bottom, but the actual posts will be over the top macho expressing a desire to top with the participants saying they don't understand how anyone could feel differently.

I'm not agreeing with the guy who said he doesn't understand how someone can be a top only. I understand it, and am sure there are many. But if anyone is gratuitously saying what their position preference is it is those who top.

[nysprod]

just like topping and/or bottoming, sucking dick isn't for everybody. Just because there are a lot of people that enjoy doing it doesn't mean everybody does.

Nothing is 100%, but in the wide spectrum of ts sex wanting to give head to a tgirl is the most universal aspect.

[algebra1900]

I think I get it...when I watch porn, the fantasy often involves putting myself in the role of the male character. I believe lordworm is saying the same thing...ergo, he doesn't like watching porn with a dude being topped because, since he doesn't enjoy doing that act himself...he can't relate to the scene - the fantasy doesn't work for him then, so there's no point in him watching it. he doesn't like it.
Makes sense to me.

Ah this makes complete sense to me, and although I'm not questioning why latex turns you on and smoking turns me on. I am questioning why the idea of being submissive is such a huge turn off to most men. My theory is the social conditioning.

i feel that same way. There is nothing wrong with bottoming and being submissive but it just isn't something im into it and rather not watch it.

So there is no scenario, no situation, no person that you would ever feel comfortable with, or see the possibility of enjoying being on the bottom, even if it only one time only?

it isn't always about needing to explore your feelings more, sometimes people have already been around the block a time or ten and figured out what they do and do not like. People like what they like and expecting everyone that enjoys a certain niche to like it for the same reason is as you would put it...ignorant. Im not saying you are ignorant im just saying don't question someones likes or dislikes just because they are different than yours.

I'm not expecting someone to like what I like, I could care less. I'm simply curious about what mechanism prevents most men from exploring submissiveness. This could also be compared to a lot of TGirls that refuse to top, and only bottom. Since being a top might make them feel masculine.

Yup, definitely changes, enhances or reinforces ones original perspective. Having done a lot of the things over the years that some people only watch in TS porn, I can often relate to it in the porn I watch. Through experience, I've found over time that I'm fairly versatile...with the right girl, I can do most anything she likes (with the exception of extreme pain and scat...that's just not going to happen)...but, for instance as pertains to this thread - someone may have either tried to bottom, or is psychologically unable to get sexually aroused in that way, ever, ...and so watching it in porn makes no sense either. People like what they like. Sometimes it changes...and sometimes it doesn't.
Some people only like blondes...it's just the way their mind works.

This is what I'm interested in, basically.

Either way most of the time I am watching the TS because that's why I am watching the genre. It is all good by me if the girls is attractive, expressive and sensual. But how ever the epis ode is constructed I tend to be mentally focused on the girl. When it's two TS girls I tend to float between the two as a result of passion they are expressing at the moment.

But I have zero problem seeing a guy get topped, it does not feel threading and it is largely the mutual pleasure in any scene that makes my blood flow in the middle region. I will say most men tend to over do the scene when they are the bottom but how much of that is industry stereotype and direction?

I think it is an issue with direction. Zooming in on the guy's hairy asshole doesn't interest me, it is the act of the girl dominating him, him being submissive. Which is best shown by showing the girl work. However this applies in reverse too, I don't really care about see a closeup of the pussy getting fucked, it doesn't do anything for me. I want to see the act, I want to see the position. The same could be said for shemale cumshots, I do not want to see a closeup of the dude's face with no shot of the girl. I mean, what is the point? I would watch gay porn if I wanted to see only men catching cumshots. I want to see the girl giving the cumshot, but I digress until I shoot my own movies I can't complain much.

just like topping and/or bottoming, sucking dick isn't for everybody. Just because there are a lot of people that enjoy doing it doesn't mean everybody does.

There is a reason for this though, everyone can be conditioned to enjoy anything, or hate anything. This is the brilliant adaptability of human beings. Ancient Greece, taking young boys to teach them the act of sex and manhood was acceptable. However having a male companion who was older than adolescence was frowned upon and rare. Odd don't you think?

Nothing is 100%, but in the wide spectrum of ts sex wanting to give head to a tgirl is the most universal aspect.

I would love to see a poll on this!

[broncofan]

There is a reason for this though, everyone can be conditioned to enjoy anything, or hate anything. This is the brilliant adaptability of human beings. Ancient Greece, taking young boys to teach them the act of sex and manhood was acceptable. However having a male companion who was older than adolescence was frowned upon and rare. Odd don't you think?

After a certain age, the brain is much less plastic and certain functions are fairly hard-wired. Since most people would find it unacceptable to condition children to enjoy one type of sex over another, I disagree that people can be conditioned to enjoy or hate any sexual practice. What people enjoy does indeed change throughout life, but I doubt it is completely malleable, particularly since conversion therapy for gay men has proven pretty unsuccessful.

[algebra1900]

After a certain age, the brain is much less plastic and certain functions are fairly hard-wired. Since most people would find it unacceptable to condition children to enjoy one type of sex over another, I disagree that people can be conditioned to enjoy or hate any sexual practice. What people enjoy does indeed change throughout life, but I doubt it is completely malleable, particularly since conversion therapy for gay men has proven pretty unsuccessful.

Well I definitely believe there are two types of homosexuals, ones who were born homosexual, and homosexuals who were made due to traumatic experiences. A lot of lesbians are made by massive amounts of sexual abuse and lose their ability to be intimate with men. There are tons of single moms in the United States, is it possible that these dysfunctional homes with dysfunctional women abused young boys to a point where they lose the ability to be intimate with women? However they've been making huge breakthroughs with psilocybin as a way to rewire the brain, and MDMA. I'm not saying taking psychedelics will make a gay man straight, but I definitely think drugs could make a gay man experience pleasure in sleeping with a woman.

[broncofan]

Well I definitely believe there are two types of homosexuals, ones who were born homosexual, and homosexuals who were made due to traumatic experiences. A lot of lesbians are made by massive amounts of sexual abuse and lose their ability to be intimate with men. There are tons of single moms in the United States, is it possible that these dysfunctional homes with dysfunctional women abused young boys to a point where they lose the ability to be intimate with women? However they've been making huge breakthroughs with psilocybin as a way to rewire the brain, and MDMA. I'm not saying taking psychedelics will make a gay man straight, but I definitely think drugs could make a gay man experience pleasure in sleeping with a woman.

Interesting points. I don't doubt that social conditioning at a young age could have some affect on how people express their sexuality. Maybe in some marginal cases, people's interests may change significantly based on traumatic experiences (or perhaps even positive ones). There was a story a while back about a man having a stroke and becoming gay, and there is actually in the clinical literature a story of a different man having a stroke and awakening to find he had become straight. But with a stroke you are talking about massive re-wiring of the brain that takes place after perhaps billions of connections have been shorn. And even in stroke victims this is on the order of probably less than one in a million.

I am actually curious about the role conditioning plays in sexual interest. Its certainly not insignificant and at the same time there must be limits too.

[broncofan]

Well I definitely believe there are two types of homosexuals, ones who were born homosexual, and homosexuals who were made due to traumatic experiences.

And just for the record, though I thought you made some good points, I have to say I am not sure about the second type you mention. I guess one reason is because it's empirically un-testable. I understand as a possibility how early experiences might create a strong aversion to one sex or the other though.

[Quiet Reflections]

So there is no scenario, no situation, no person that you would ever feel comfortable with, or see the possibility of enjoying being on the bottom, even if it only one time only?

Im not saying i have never tried it. Im saying when I did it, I didn't like it. I simply hate how it felt and made the personal choice to never do it again. There is nothing wrong with people that enjoy it but im not one of those people. Could my wife have ever convinced me to do it , I would have to say no since everybody has hard limits and she knows mine and most of mine were set before we met.

[Benedict1991]

I like only men topping the transwomen.

I don't care for lesbian tranny porn or tg topping gg.
I wonder why American sites don't have more of this? trans500 has a great site and it has the man topping 99% of the time.