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04-26-2014 #81
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I don't find anything disturbing with his views because I've watched and listened to his several interviews since and understand what he was trying to convey. He is an old man from a different era and a rural rancher, not a college English grad who can speak in eloquent manners like professional public speakers. You also seem so upset over his use of the word "negro", however, in his youth and during that time period, "negro" was the politically correct, non-racist way to refer to a black individual. Today we use "African American" and even now there are people claiming that is offensive. So, please, inform the world how you would like to be referred to when someone is trying to describe a person's race and color of skin, that is not offensive.
You are still missing the entire point. You called the militia and anti-BLM protesters "white supremacists". How do you know that? Have you talked to any of them? Have you asked each of these protesters and militiamen what their views are of African descended American peoples?
I also don't care what he owes the BLM. Just because the federal government believes it has the right to declare arbitrary rules and regulations whenever it feels like, just because it can, does not mean such rules are okay. He has to pay money so cows can chew on grass? What's next? Oh wait. Lawmakers in Washington state suggested passing a bicycling air pollution tax because humans exhale carbon dioxide and threatens the O-Zone with green house gases. I guess the government can start enforcing breathing taxes at the point of a gun too? Screw the government.
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04-26-2014 #82
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04-26-2014 #83
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It strikes me that some people will always take the side of a crank because the federal government is always wrong. Which would be the federal government that abolished slavery, passed the civil rights act and sawn the new deal through to save the world economy. Oh well.
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04-26-2014 #84
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04-26-2014 #85
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A lot has happened since he was a youth. Most people learn throughout life. Some children pick their nose. As adults they are expected not to do that in public.
Kittykaiti you are beyond hope. Sane people would not expect to be allowed to use government or private land they do not own without being subject to regulation of that use. There's nothing arbitrary about charging fees that approximate the cost (or even a fraction of it) that someone's use exacts on land.
A lot of militia men are bigots. Perhaps not every group, but it's difficult to keep track of every group of nutjobs threatening the government. So you say your nutjobs are equal opportunity nutjobs. That's fine. They are still morons.
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04-26-2014 #86
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There's a species of bird in California that has changed it's wingspan in the last 100 years so it can fly out of the way of cars quicker.
I don't know if it's natural selection, or if the birds willed it to happen.
I do know the Goldwater Republicans are dying off.
The Europeans who sailed the triangle, the Africans who enslaved other tribes and sold them, the New Worlders who bought them so they could turn fields into thriving plantations, they're all dead now. They weren't trying to change the world, they were trying to make a buck in hard times.
Debate is fine, but actually changing things is slower, and not always dependent on what's right. The way it is, that is what's right.
Cliven Bundy doesn't need a Harvard education, in fact it would probably interfere with his duties as a rancher. His parents didn't debate if he should be smart or stupid, but the lion's share of ranchers know enough to pay their bills.
Fifty years ago the US was 85% white, if I win a Debate that says we should be 100% white, I doubt all the non-whites will leave. There are unseen forces at work here. Like REALITY. I'm positive Cliven wishes the Blacks had not been brought over here as Slaves. I heard him say that the Mexicans are much better workers.
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04-26-2014 #87
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04-26-2014 #88
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I always think it's funny when people will dismiss all news organizations...but then have no problem citing Alex Jones as their source of information...often their main source ...and not even cracking a smile.
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04-26-2014 #89
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You are still missing the entire point. You called the militia and anti-BLM protesters "white supremacists".
Cliven's not a hero. He's an excuse. He's an excuse for looney, white supremacist, anti-U.S. government, slim[e]balls to get out their guns, wave them around and ejaculate a few rounds of stupidity, ignorance and hatred.
Did I say the milita were white supremacist? Look again. Did I say the anti-BLM protesters were white supremacist? Look again. For the record, I don’t doubt quite a number of those folk are white supremacists, given the “associations” to which you yourself as well as Broncofan have alluded. But didn’t say anything of like, “X are white supremacist slimeballs.” Instead I said that looney, white supremacist, anti-U.S.government slimeballs were using Cliven as an excuse. See the difference now. And who are these slimeballs? Some of them have driven down to Bunkerville to be sure (and btw the town’s not all the happy with the influx of all those armed assholes). But those slimeballs are all over the U.S. and the web waving their guns (literally and metaphorically) and loudly ejaculating their rounds of stupidity (that word, “stupidity” should’ve been a clue that this part of the sentence was a metaphor), ignorance and hatred. I believe somebody here posted a screen-sized picture of a gun while supporting Cliven’s racism.
I also don't care what he owes the BLM. Just because the federal government believes it has the right to declare arbitrary rules and regulations whenever it feels like,
Lawmakers in Washington state suggested...
You also seem so upset over his use of the word "negro", however, in his youth and during that time period, "negro" was the politically correct, non-racist way to refer to a black individual. Today we use "African American" and even now there are people claiming that is offensive. So, please, inform the world how you would like to be referred to when someone is trying to describe a person's race and color of skin, that is not offensive.
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04-27-2014 #90
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A good post. I want to focus on this point because I think it's an important rebuttal for the overreaching, excessive force arguments. I think officials should try to use the least intrusive means necessary to prevent someone from breaking the law. You are talking about the local official who didn't enforce the federal law, but imo it's even a failure of the federal government's enforcement powers once violations had gone on for a while. And that's because they were not able to abate the illegal actions. This was not civil disobedience on the part of Bundy because he threatened to use force to protect his cattle.
I think people have a right not to comply with a law that violates a clearly established constitutional norm. That would be for instance if a state made abortion illegal, no matter how it was performed and when. You can't see from the face of the constitution that such an action would be unconstitutional, but there is clear precedent on the issue. The highest court in the land has ruled on that specific issue...not an ancillary issue but that issue. Of course, there would be limits to whether you could use force in resisting attempts to enforce that law. But at least you wouldn't be making this crazy argument that everyone is entitled to his own interpretation of the constitution regardless of how our judiciary has ruled. That's a recipe for anarchy.
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