The FAST Approaching Gun Ban

[Loud Love]

If his goal was to murder twenty three children he actually (and thankfully) failed...'cause he only had a knife.

It was 22 and 1 adult. I provided you information that you obviously refused to read so go fuck yourself. I'm done with thread.

[broncofan]

We are all here on this site due to a common interest. We are missing an opportunity to shed our intolerance of opinions that may differ from that of others to become a stronger community. Looking back, it's ironic that we need to preach tolorence to each other.

Disagreeing with someone is not viewpoint intolerance. It's only intolerant if you are so angry that someone has a different opinion that you decide to be uncivil when they have not been.

[broncofan]

It was 22 and 1 adult. I provided you information that you obviously refused to read so go fuck yourself. I'm done with thread.

Okay. You've made your choice. I hope that goes for the extra-curricular activities with your thumbs too.

[broncofan]

Just as a post-script, if your hope is that people are going to believe that a group of socialist politicians are trying to achieve a complete ban on all guns, it's literally mission impossible. The constitution does not allow such broad laws, there is little chance of the second amendment being repealed, and so no way that regulation is the beginning of a slippery slope. Trish addressed these points one by one, but you're not getting much agreement because you're not operating in reality. It is possible to argue gun policy or the public health consequences of widespread gun ownership, but your belief that somehow legislators are looking to pass a law that would immediately be declared unconstitutional makes no sense at all.

[hippifried]

Any and every socialist politician. Too many to name. They prefer the baby steps approach but if you refuse to read between the lines you are fooling yourself. The strictest of countries started this decades ago. Many are almost there. China only allows a citizen, excuse me Ward, to own a pellet rifle with a caliber no larger than .177. Last I heard, that is in jeopardy.

You don't have a single clue as to what you're talking about. you're just repeating piecemeal talking points and you probably don't even know where you put th you're just repeating piecemeal talking points and you probably don't even know where you picked them up.
Too many to name, huh... Well just rattle off a half dozen. That should't be too hard, unless you can't count that high (or you don't know what a dozen is). Okay, five then. Wouldn't want you to get confused by trying to use a second hand.

Oh by the way... This isn't China. They're a separate nation, on the other side of the globe, that's been ruled by nothing but repressive regimes for the last 5,000 years.

So let's see... You have no factual basis for your rantings. Nothing but hyperbolic plagerized opinions that you probably don't understand, & irrelevancies. You should run for office as a tea party flunky.

[hippifried]

Shit!!
I need to stop trying to use dictation, & turn off corrective typing programs. I think my one finger typing is actually faster, since I don't need to rewrite the whole post in editing.

[Stavros]

In theory having the police unarmed sounds appealing but we need to remember who uses firearms to harm people. It's the criminals. We are currently experiencing a rash of policemen being murdered by these criminals. If they were not armed we would only have the criminals taking over. We are convulsed in crime by gang warfare and an ever growing corruption of our youth to join such a culture.
Just move to Chicago for a month. I think you would rethink your stance.

There is nothing superior about the UK compared to the USA on this issue.
Our regular policeman are not armed but may carry tasers, and we do have armed police units who can be called to a scene and who have, in fact, been involved in controversial cases where people have been killed, most notably in recent times, Mark Duggan. There have also been shocking incidents of 'family annihilation' where a man has used a shotgun to murder his entire family, and then himself, in one case a man who had been licensed to own a weapon which was then taken away from him when he fell out with his wife and was considered mentally unfit -but at a later date returned to him, shortly after committing the crime (near Leicester). Criminals -in or out of gangs- either own guns or lease them to each other for crimes as they cannot get a permit, something increasingly hard since the massacres at Hungerford and Dunblane but not impossible.

The biggest difference may be that there is no gun culture in the UK at the scale you have in the USA, so that the idea of owning a gun in the UK is something unusual, and seems to be limited to farmers and sports enthusiasts, and the whole issue of 'the right to bear arms' has never been a political issue here as it has been in the USA where, our perception from here, is that it is relatively easy to buy a gun. I wouldn't even know how or where to buy a gun in the UK.

The danger with this thread is that we end up repeating ourselves, I am not sure what new there is to say on this topic. Except to say the obvious, that there are ways of resolving differences in a divided society, using armed force is not one of them. It creates more problems than it solves.

[buttslinger]

I'm pretty sure Maine is a lot closer to Britain than Texas, culture does matter.
If everybody here started gobbling estrogen pills, it wouldn't take long until we were all obsessing about our feelings, calling friends on the phone just to talk, and looking at sports and the three stooges as stupid.
If everyone here lived in South Carolina, I guarantee you that the conversation would center around Obama trying to take our taxes to fund welfare mother's drug addictions, fund abortions, and come into our houses to take our guns.
If there was a bill before congress to ban 50 round banana clips, I'd be shaming LoudLove into defending military ordinance to hunt deer.
If there were a bill before congress to ban abortions, I'd be challenging AshlynCreamher to adopt 6 unwanted black babies.
At this time, I would like to extend my hand to Ashlyn and Loudy into the Democratic Party, where they really belong, and offer you full Medical, Retirement, and a fair salary. Just because every picture of your relatives shows them holding rifles or standing in front of church is no reason to empower billion dollar fatcats who use your money to keep you in the dark.
Half the country is pro life and pro gun. this is a fact. Giving voters God, Guts, and Guns costs taxpayers nothing. Giving taxpayers Medicare costs a lot of money. So Democrats have to understand that they support meddling in other people's wallets. Just like Republicans want to meddle in other people's wombs. I like to err on the side of the individual's rights, maybe because I'm a sick individual, maybe because real progress happens one individual at a time, I dunno. Over on the NRA site, they laugh at this site as a bunch of fruits who ran to the front of the line when God was handing out the gay genes, hey, they could be right. Squeezing off a few rounds from your Beretta might be better than squeezing off a few rounds of jizz onto your computer monitor. Different strokes for different strokes.
Defeating Republicans in November is important to me, but winning over Republican voters is the real prize, that's the real battle. The real battle isn't culture, it's money. Culture will follow. People in Wyoming don't buy little gizmos to convert AK-47s into full auto killing machines. People in Chicago do. If you use culture as your argument ...you will lose.

[broncofan]

I've noticed a certain pattern of moral relativism in your posts Buttslinger. Every post seems to be along the lines of, "well you may oppose bigotry, but in South Carolina they would call you a welfare queen...." or "you may think that the gun lobby is out of control but the gun lobby thinks you're a fruit..."

Just because people's views can be affected by their life circumstances does not mean every view is equally defensible. I could literally hear you in the 1930s say something along the lines of, "well you may think the Roma are perfectly decent people, but if you were from Leipzig you would think they were subhuman parasites."

The fact that some people hold a viewpoint does not validate the viewpoint. I believe there's a difference between a person harboring mindless hatred of homosexuals and African-Americans and the desire for gun regulation. But perhaps everything is so pointlessly subjective that we should give every opinion, no matter how detached from facts and reason, equal standing?

[buttslinger]

My point is if you lived in Georgia your handle would be Falconfan, and if your father and mother were racists, you'd probably be a racist too. A million flies eating shit CAN'T be wrong!!!
If there's an election on, I'll be a Democrat, but between elections, I call on Democrats to live their life fully and work on their own game.
Specifically this thread is about banana clips and gun show loopholes. And even if those laws are enacted, the Nazis will still would have killed millions of Jews and our little talks would not change one thing. Pouring tons of explosives on Krauts and Japs should always be your last option. Even if gun laws are enacted, gangbangers will still be gangbangin. Gangbangers are not perfectly decent people. Here in the USA we don't gas them, we give them jobs at McDonalds or send them to jail.
Just because people's viewpoint is wrong.....says who? Please send SteveGrooby a hundred dollar check to support our Shemales and their valiant effort to fight for social injustice. Stand on a stump and preach the benefits of jerking off in front of your computer. Gun Nuts are more DIFFERENT than WRONG. Guys in Wyoming agree that guns used in crimes or school massacres are wrong. Everybody does, probably even the criminals and psychos. So who are we arguing with?

What flies in the biker gang clubhouse is a lot different than what flies in the Church across the street. Which one does Hung Angels endorse?

As far as my posts, I have gone back and read some of them and I have no fucking idea what I was saying, I claim to be AN ARTIST and use my words as figurines in a painting. Depending on my particular mood at that moment. I reach. I'll even go after Trish if things are boring. I've driven drunk and dated whores and stolen money from my job. So technically, yeah, I'm wrong, I belong in jail!!!!