UK planning age verification for porn sites from April 2018

[Gillian]

how is that supposed to help anyone but a bunch of commies to keep their posts and carry on making silly laws?

It won't. Somehow Britons, and more particularly their politicians, have convinced themselves that enacting new laws solves problems. AFAIK, the Blair government broke all records for the amount of legislation it in enacted.

We'll turn into Italy where no one pays any attention to laws and that's a slippery slope ...

[JayneHayle]

Hi

Just joined to ask how the new UK based porn rules coming in April 2018 will affect sites like this and other forums?

Word has it that the Trump administration has plans to implement the same system in the USA

Will we all need to present our credit card details to use and view this and similar sites?


In case anyone has not heard about the new laws here are a couple of links to explain it all

http://www.wired.co.uk/article/porn-...erifcation-law

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-40630582


I guess everyone will say we can simply use a VPN to get around it. I too thought that but as every site will need over 18 age checks I can't see how that would work.

In the UK there will be a new government department set up to allow reporting of sites that don't comply with the over 18 checks, resulting in ISP providers blocking access to the sites. If they don't they can be fined up to £250,000 per violation

[GroobySteven]

You won't need to use your credit card.

You joined this forum JUST to make this post which isn't specific to trans content?

[JayneHayle]

Sorry, I meant just joined as in joined a few mins ago

[JayneHayle]

It won't be about stopping the surfer, it will be about stopping the company. The companies will have to comply otherwise risk getting their sites blocked, billing cancelled and other punitive measures. This is likely to pave the way for Australia, Canada and some US states also considering similar plans.
I'm not completely against it in some form or other, and having seen some of the plans for complying, believe this will help in some ways.

There is an issue when a child can search for 'angel' and be presented with hardcore anal fisting images.

That sounds like ALL sites worldwide that feature explicit images, WILL eventually have to comply with the new rules then?

This site included?

How will it affect the likes of social media sites like Twitter, Flicker etc? Facebook already bans porn images


I suspect this the end of porn as we know it as I for one wouldn't feel comfortable handing over my credit card details to a porn company in light of the Ashley Maddison fiasco.


Hope its not back to the days of seedy back street adult shops and brown paper bags!!!!

[Ts RedVeX]

All legislation of this kind is about stopping the company. Especially the one that does not want to pay ransom in some form of a "license". The Club of Rome's (and the EU's) communist agenda of stopping any development in any field, apparently in porn as well - since global warming isn't working out as planned, in order to stop overpopulating Earth has been achieved and yet the retards haven't had enough yet! Cannot wait till negative interest rates emerge and people won't want to have money at all...

That is what democracy is all about. The majority of idiots elect the biggest idiot to represent them and make socialist laws that seem to be good for the idiot collective at first glance - be it women, homosexuals, black people, etc... Then it turns out that the elected "Idiot King" only has so much time to steal as much money as possible, before the following election. The effect is, The Idiot King wants to enforce as many idiotic laws as possible, get a bunch of people out of the idiots' collectives - feminists, LGBT activists, black lives matter, etc... respectively, and give them whatever idiotic legislation those activists, who allegedly represent their collectives, fight for and then be remembered as a good politician thanx to mass media or even be reelected - if their laws are extremely bad. So in this particular case, parents, who cannot tell their child off or spank it to make sure it does not watch porn because it is "politically incorrect" and illegal to spank the statutory child's ass, need another idiotic law that makes sure the child does not visit porn sites. Fucking logical innit? And who is the bad guy? GroobySteven - of course, and a bunch of other Sodomites like Redvex and any other who dares to make a living!

By the way, lifesfiction, you might want to put your drugs away for a while - at least until you have realised it is the 21st century now, at least if one looks at the date.

[skirtrustler]

In principle there is nothing wrong with age verification, and owning a credit card is the only truly portable current proof that you are not a minor (fraud excepted). CCBILL can be configured to only accept credit cards (as opposed to stored value and debit cards). Experience (under UK ATVOD regime) also shows that people are willing to provide pictures of driving licences or selfies holding a hand written verification message.

The two problems the UK are (1) that the powers that be have not thought this through - they are politicians - and are relying on the industry to come up with a solution, and (2) the weird UK view of what constitutes unacceptable pornography and the R18 classification (e.g. fisting and face sitting are banned under R18 .. since ‘sexually aroused adults cannot be trusted to act as adults’).

The concept of age verification to control access to video on demand (VOD) services is set out clearly in the EU-AVMSD (Audio Visual Media Services Directive), so it is going to happen. However, this explicitly makes statements against individual member states making their own intermediate classifications such as R18, rather than the outright illegal porn (corpses, kids, actual bodily harm, and animals). This later point is open to expensive judicial review once a legal aid funded test case can be set up.

There are technical solutions, and both U2F / FIDO technology and / or blockchain models look like they could work together without creating a searchable list of porn consumers. Anyone who is interested can google on those. Blockchain (the hyper-ledger variant) technologies allow a number of untrusting partners (e.g. big porn operators, banks etc) to build a system of trust, then on top of that U2F / FIDO devices would provide a means of proving identity. These latter devices are supported by modern Android phones and the iPhone X, plus laptop PC already, and can be used to secure google services, github, and others. In this way you would only need to prove your age once, and your bank could do that seamlessly, and even without knowing it was for porn consumption

Interesting times ahead.

[Ts RedVeX]

Everything is wrong with owning a credit card. One should not be allowed to spend money they have never made. - E.g. theresa may, who probably had never even seen a million pounds in her lousy life wanted the peoples of the UK to pay over 600quid each for her brexit bill that would not guarantee shit for the country. Just like that. - Unless of course you have a family, then you need to multiply that 600quid by the number of members of your family whom are your dependants.

The 2 problems are: 1)Communists 2)Socialists, who collectively could be called bandits

Get rid of them from politics and we will all get back to normality. Any other "technical problems" are artificial

[dakota87]

So will magazines and dvds be making a comeback? I’m leery of giving out personal info in this age of identity theft.

[skirtrustler]

I’m leery of giving out personal info in this age of identity theft.

Because of EU GDPR (General Data Protection Regulations) your information is safest within an EU based / operated website as the law is strict and potential fines are massive. The idea of age verification is ideally that you leverage something like your bank -who already know your age - in such a way that you can prove your age anonymously and without creating a searchable register of ‘porn users’.

With the previous UK ATVOD regime the standard of age verification required was the same as required to buy a DVD in a shop. The shop don’t keep your photo or proof of ID, and on the web sites of concern (separate web sites to our esteemed host here) the proof of age was thus not kept after it had been used.

Obviously there are dodgy scam websites, who will move out of the EU, just as there are shops that will skim your credit card or short change you.