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02-15-2022 #31
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Re: Is anybody travelling whilst being unvaccinated??
This is nonsense, as you cannot guarantee anything unless you have the medical records to prove it. I was in Germany for over a month travelling from the UK between December and January, with two vaccinations and a booster, and travelled in the country to different places either on my own on public transport, or by car with friends. I doubt my movements were so different from what Steve did. I know I was not a carrier because I was tested -I was obliged to be tested- numerous times, and I would not be surprised if Steve was too. But I am sure he can speak for himself on this.
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02-15-2022 #32
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02-15-2022 #33
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02-15-2022 #34
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Re: Is anybody travelling whilst being unvaccinated??
I was going to chime in to say this but find the subject kind of frustrating.
But this is important as the shots DO provide protection against infection from Omicron. To reiterate they also provide greater than 90% effectiveness against hospitalization and death. But being 5x less likely to get covid is nothing to snicker at given that the shots were designed for the original virus out of Wuhan.
Omicron didn't become the dominant variant until 11 months after the vaccines became available and it's the first variant in which there's a significant reduction in protection against infection. It will also not be the last variant and it's not clear what lineage any new variant will have but people who are vaccinated and boosted have a much better chance of being protected against disease and helping to contain it.
People keep saying they can make their own choices and I suppose that's true but people make bad choices all the time. And countries have a right to keep people out who make choices inconsistent with their values.
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02-15-2022 #35
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Re: Is anybody travelling whilst being unvaccinated??
Love the generalization that people who don't wear seatbelts aren't safety conscious. Or that people who smoke around young children are less concerned about the welfare of others. I thought it was only wrong to make generalizations if the characteristic you're basing your judgement on has nothing to do with that judgement.
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02-15-2022 #36
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Re: Is anybody travelling whilst being unvaccinated??
There have been studies on transmission rates and a shot that is effective against symptomatic infection tends to be effective in protecting against spread. Three shots do provide protection against infection and pure asymptomatic cases are much less likely to spread disease. Asymptomatic transmission can occur but someone who is sick is more likely to shed lots of virus.
This article was written when delta was dominant but protection against being infected correlates pretty strongly with ability to transmit and three shots of the vaccine provide protection against omicron. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...on/6403678001/
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02-15-2022 #37
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Re: Is anybody travelling whilst being unvaccinated??
Willingly unvaccinated people are:
1. Less educated than average
2. Care less about others
3. More prone to conspiratorial thinking
I'm hoping that a more lethal virus will come along and kill them all, as any society would be better with these people gone.
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02-15-2022 #38
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Re: Is anybody travelling whilst being unvaccinated??
a) a more lethal virus may well eliminate more of us than you seem to wish for; and
b) can we stop all this talk of killing? With Jim Jordan endorsing Trump's insinuation that Hillary Clinton's 'spies' infiltrated his campaign in 2016 and should be executed for spying, the day may not be far off when someone with a high public profile does indeed end up dead. There are other ways of dealing with prejudice and ignorance, they are far superior to a bullet in the head.
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02-15-2022 #39
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Re: Is anybody travelling whilst being unvaccinated??
Did grooby delete posts of someone owning him again? Typical.
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02-15-2022 #40
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