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    Climate Change is presented as a universal problem, but its impact not only changes from one country or region to another -we can understand this in terms of 'micro-climates'- but can differ in a relatively small area, as a study of Manhattan has shown, and in the case of NYC, one can assume the micro-climate of Long Island is different from that in the Bronx.

    A ‘Third Way’ to Combat Climate Change: Microclimates - TheWaterChannel

    See How Temperatures In Manhattan Differ From Block To Block - Gothamist


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    More dire warnings. We're collectively saying, because of global warming, that future generations have no value...
    Scientists deliver ‘final warning’ on climate crisis: act now or it’s too late: https://www.theguardian.com/environm...warning-on-15c



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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFanti View Post
    I do find it a bit "peculiar" to hear folks say on the one hand:

    -"Climate change & Global Warming"!!!

    But yet on the other....

    -"I'm really enjoying these mild winters"
    Only if you thought milder winters were likely to be the only consequence of climate change, which would make you a fool. Have you failed to notice there's been an increase in extreme weather events around the world in recent years?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    More dire warnings. We're collectively saying, because of global warming, that future generations have no value...
    It's not only that, because the effects will be felt within the lifetimes of most of us. It's not like 30 years ago when it seemed far off in the future. Collectively we are saying that we are prepared to accept huge risks in our future just to avoid some cost and inconvenience in changing our ways now.

    What the sceptics never consider is the cost of being wrong. If the scientists turn out to be too pessimistic, the worst outcome is that we spent too much on transitioning to renewable energy sources and energy efficiency. If they turn out to be right (or even too optimistic) the potential worst outcomes are much worse.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFanti View Post
    And from Canada...
    There Is No Climate Emergency, Say 500 Experts in Letter to the United Nations
    https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/there...nited-nations/
    Perhaps you don't care, but you really should do some basic research to save embarassing yourself. People who have looked into the so-called 500 experts have found that only a few actually worked in climate science and many were not even scientists.
    https://climatefeedback.org/claimrev...nce-breitbart/

    "I categorized all 506 signatories according to their self-identified field of expertise. Only 10 identified as climate scientists, and 4 identified as meteorologists. (Together, that’s 2.8% of the total.) Signatories in totally unrelated academic fields (for example, psychology, philosophy, archaeology, and law) outnumbered climate scientists by two to one.

    The most prevalent groups of signatories were geologists (19%) and engineers (21%)—many of whom were implicitly or explicitly involved in fossil energy extraction. Most of the rest were physicists, chemists, and mathematicians. A large fraction of the signatories were not scientists, but rather business executives, writers, activists, and lobbyists (totaling 11.3%)."


    An analysis of 75 Australian signatories came to similar conclusions, with only few having published peer-reviewed research on the subject.
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-...gency/11734966


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    Default Re: Climate change could mean the extinction of our species

    Tuesday was world’s hottest day on record – breaking Monday’s record:

    Tuesday was world’s hottest day on record – breaking Monday’s record | Climate crisis | The Guardian



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    Another piece of worrying climate news. The sea ice around Antarctica has not reformed this year as it usually does in winter - apparently a one in 7.5 million year event.
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-...vent/102635204



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    It's all bull


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    Quote Originally Posted by completely_nailed View Post
    It's all bull
    Three words that sum up the new policy options on climate change led by the Telegraph since the Uxbridge by-election and the claim ‘the people’ can’t afford the measures being taken. So this is the moment not to change policy, but scrap it completely.

    Because science is bullshit, right?



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    More on the above, as one of the founders of Extinction Rebellion, Roger Allam has, according to the Telegraph, attacked London Mayor Sadiq Khan's Ultra-Low-Emissions-Zone proposals --

    "The founder of Extinction Rebellion has hit out at Sadiq Khan’s ultra-low emissions zone (Ulez) as “intrusive” and “regressive” for the lowest-paid Londoners.Roger Hallam made the comments in a thread on social media site X, in which he also attacked “urban middle-class neo-liberal Left” thinkers behind the Mayor’s road charge.
    He was responding to a Guardian column by Prof Devi Sridhar that argued in favour of Ulez and low-traffic neighbourhoods (LTNs). Hallam criticised supporters of the schemes for a “total lack of sensitivity and self-awareness”, claiming it showed a “myopic privilege”."
    Extinction Rebellion founder hits out at Ulez as protesters have tyres slashed (yahoo.com)

    Looks like the Proletariat are going to have to re-organize around, ahem, "Citizen's Assemblies' courtesy of the leadership of ER, who presumably will then delay all Green Policies that eat into the wages of the poor until 'After the Revolution'....so those stuck in the middle of this 'climate crisis' or climate crisis, are now being hammered from the right and the left, if that is what ER's situationist-style politics amounts to....



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