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    Quote Originally Posted by filghy2 View Post

    Anyway, there are more important things than the cost of living. I wonder what Carlson and the other Putin apologists will have to say about Navalny's death.
    Here is your answer, straight out of the Henry Kissinger book of Real Life is a Shit Sandwich. One wonders how many people did Nehru kill when he was Prime Minister of India, or how many people did Nelson Mandela kill when he was President of South Africa. I know not all of Canada's Prime Ministers have been saints, but what does the roster of killings look like in that country?

    So I assume Carlson has a simple view: Strong Leaders Kill People, Get Over it.

    Tucker Carlson criticised for praising Putin before Navalny death: ‘Leadership requires killing people’ (msn.com)



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    He did say this, though without naming Putin:
    "it's horrifying what happened to Navalny. The whole thing is barbaric and awful. No decent person would defend it."
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ia/ar-BB1ipl67

    The other Putin fan who is actually running for President seems to have said nothing on the subject.


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    Quote Originally Posted by filghy2 View Post
    He did say this, though without naming Putin:
    "it's horrifying what happened to Navalny. The whole thing is barbaric and awful. No decent person would defend it."
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ia/ar-BB1ipl67

    The other Putin fan who is actually running for President seems to have said nothing on the subject.
    Carlson is a worthless hypocrite, cherry-picking his way through the corpses stacked up by his favourite dictators to condemn some while remaining silent on others.

    He has interviewed Viktor Orbán on the grounds he shares the same 'family values' as he and the Republicans claim to share, and the importance of Christianity, and of course, The Nation as the foundations of a decent society. Only it now emerges that Orbán and his Fidesz colleagues are far from decent, and have had their grubby hypocrisy exposed, though we don't yet know if this will force Orbán out of office. He has another boyfriend in the US, Sebastian Gorka, a permanently hysterical bag-carrier for Bannon.

    Can we hope this year sees the tide turn against these nauseating hypocrites who champion the very kind of politics that in other countries would land them in the Gulag?

    This is the super-scandal that should bring down Viktor Orbán – and it’s far from over | Katalin Cseh | The Guardian



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    Now the poor man is effectively defending Putin on the grounds that he would not have ordered the murder of Navalny when the Munich Security Conference was taking place, indeed anyone who says so is an 'idiot'-

    "People who say Putin killed him are idiots,' Carlson said."
    Tucker Carlson jumps to Putin's defense again after Navalny's death (msn.com)

    Historians now argue it was at the Munich Conference in 2007 that Putin indicated his patience with 'the West' was over and he was planning an expansion of his new Empire, so it actually made more sense to murder Navalny when the Conference was taking place to remind the delegates there he calls the shots in Russia. Whether or not he personally ordered the murder is not relevant, as the system he has created knows how to deal with any opponent of the regime.

    The idiots are those who defend Putin -ask yourself, would they want in the US what the Russians have? Maybe that is a chilling thought.



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    Two years on, and the question might not be can Ukraine win, but can Russia be defeated? I doubt the latter, though on BBC Radio 4's World This Weekend (Sunday 25th) it was pointed out that a war economy can survive in the near future but stores long term problems for Russian economy and society. Production of weapons and the upgrading of old stock is giving people jobs, but it is a 'Kalashnikov economy', and the current weakness is on the Ukraine side with war fatigue and the prospect of it losing financial and military assistance from NATO and the US.

    The real anxiety now has shifted to Moldova and the fake Russian Republc of Transnistria, as the Russians there will be seeking the formal integration into Russia, probably in the week ahead-

    "Pro-Russia rebels in a separatist part of Moldova are preparing to ask Vladimir Putin to annex their region amid warnings that an emboldened Kremlin is trying to destabilise Europe."
    Moldovan separatists to ask Putin to annexe their region (yahoo.com)

    It would be another way that Putin does what he wants without regard for the consequences as long as it benefits him and undermines whatever 'the West' thinks it can do. When it comes to suffering, most people I think agree that Putin doesn't care about that. We shall see.



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    Tucker Carlson out of his depth and bewildered by the philosophical ideas of Aleksandr Dugin, described as 'Putin' Brain', but a man who conjures up out of the 'Anglo-Saxon World' (!) a new Liberalism in which the minority rules the majority, where sex is optional, and the end state is the liberation from humanity into a singularity. When did this start? When the 'Anglo-Saxon World' broke away from the Catholic Church and began to emphasize individual rights over collective rights and identity, thus throwing some kind of temporary panic in Carlson's brain as he struggles to define individualism, and so on.

    Spare a thought for the Normans who transformed Britain, indeed, became an Imperial power stretching from Ireland in the west to Sicily in the Mediterranean. As for the growth of Capitalism, class, the industrial revolution or the ideas of Hobbes, Locke and Mill....well I guess that is for another day.

    And no discussion of what 'Putin's Brain' thinks is good for Russia, which spares us the recitation of the glories of Autocracy, Orthodoxy and Nationalism.

    The interview is in this article

    Tucker Carlson Posts Deranged Interview With ‘Putin’s Brain’ (yahoo.com)



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    So much turmoil everywhere, one hopes people have not forgotten a most dangerous corner of the world, where

    "The Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide defines genocide as acts committed “with intent to destroy, in whole or in part” a specific group.The destruction need not be accomplished physically – actions taken to destroy a group’s identity without killing all members of the group also constitute genocide. The Russian genocidal project includes horrific acts of violence, to be sure, including summary executions, sexual assaults, arbitrary detentions, and torture. It includes the forcible deportation of children from Ukraine to Russia, which the Genocide Convention explicitly specifies also constitutes genocide."
    If Putin wins, expect the worst genocide since the Holocaust (yahoo.com)

    Identity politics, not from the Left. But what in the long term does Putin think this will achieve? Hard to see how a blasted country with a demoralized population is going to be productive, whatever language they speak, or are forced to speak.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    I don't know who Joe Lauria is, but I think he might do better if he were to read a few books on Russia, or acquaint himself with Putin's version of PNAC, Project for a New Russian Century.

    Putin on the one hand has weakened Russia, compared to where it was at the end of the 1990s. On the other hand, he has successfully used the fact of Russia's geography, its nuclear arsenal and most of all its alliances with China and India (fragile though these can be) to do what he wants and dare 'the West' -ie the US and the EU- to do something about it.

    Putin can wage war against Ukraine for the next 50 years if his successor(s) decides to, much as the insurgent armies in Myanmar have been waging war with the various regimes in power since the late 1940s Low level most of the time, it makes resolution all but impossible, while creating a reservoir of bitterness and resentment as deep as any created by the Israel-Palestine conflict.

    The dilemma for Biden and Blinken, is that the aggressive application of PNAC, crucially in Iraq and Afghanistan, has not just failed, but undermined the moral argument of the US as world leader at the very moment when it was needed to counter the Nationalist aggression of Putin, Netanyahu and Xi's ambition to 're-unite' Taiwan with the People's Republic. If there is a gap between Blinken on one side, and Biden and the US military on the other, it is because the US has not been able to sustain the Neo-Con strategy as a military project, while the rise of Nationalism as an antidote to Globalization enables someone like JD Vance to declare 'I don't care about Ukraine', which is why some people see the 2020s as a re-run of the 1930s.

    Trump by contrast has at least replaced the National Interest of the USA with his financial interest- his deals with Xi were all based on China giving him the access to markets in China he was denied before he became President, it is not clear what China got in return.

    The so-called 'Abraham Accords' were just a business deal that consolidated the Kushner/Trump family business/financial interests in Israel and the illegally-occupied West Bank with the promise that bringing the Gulf states into the relationship would release handsome volumes of capital investment (but not for Palestinians of course) and thus make Kushner and Trump even richer than they were before.

    One of Bibi's inducements was to re-name the 'Golan Heights' (Jabal al-Jawlan if you prefer) 'Trump Heights'. That Israel acquired this part of Syria through force, as blatant a violation of international law as can be found in history, is apparently of no interest or importance, whereas Russia invading and annexing Ukraine has sent the world into meltdown.

    Trump will fold when it is Putin he is dealing with, it is that simple. The Russian mafia laundered money through Trump's New Jersey casinos -he knew it, the IRS knew it, and it was one element of their collapse. Trump then formed a business relationship with another Russian Mafia link, Felix Sater, and then there is the notorious moment in July 2016 when Trump publicly called on Russia to help him attack the American candidate in the election. Given that the Trump campaign knew the Russians were attacking the US through their election interference, Trump siding with the Russians against the US makes him a Traitor, which may be why once he was President he launched investigations into several people after 2016 calling all of them 'Traitors' to deflect from his own treachery. And you can be sure that this cheap, vindictive little man will, if re-elected spend as much time having his 'enemies' investigated as he did before, and if it fails to prove anything but costs them hundreds of thousands or even a million dollars, that is also a form of 'job done' -to make them worse off than they were before defying His Imperial Majesty.

    At some point perhaps someone might call Putin's bluff, or maybe he will do the same and either invade or attack NATO countries such as the Baltic states or Poland -what will NATO/US do then? Or this time next year, who knows next week, Putin will no longer be in power.

    Don't ask Mr Lauria, he hasn't got a clue.



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