Miriam Rivera documentary

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https://www.channel4.com/programmes/...a-reality-star


RIP to her.

Clearly, this fucked her up.

The guys too were also duped, and the producers were evidently shady for merely devising the entire thing.

The late Miriam and the guys should have put aside their differences and united to sue the FUCK OUT THE SCUMMY AND MORALLY LIMITED PRODUCTION COMPANY!

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was just transphobic BS.

Whilst she knew wha they were about, it was harmful on her and the guys. it's clear it took an emotional toll on her. There actually is porn online on her, but those with decency would take it off their sites. RIP.

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What got me was the producer lady. She was deflecting so hard, that she couldn't bring herself to admit she and the company duped the men, and contributed to making Miriam's life Hell. It's funny how lots of production companies get into shit like this, whether it's for reality TV or documentaries. They often in various guises come across as dishonest or shady in their intent. An industry of seeming sociopaths.

I wonder if the men apologise to Miriam for how they treated her, or showed some contrition/remorse before she died.

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What got me was the producer lady. She was deflecting so hard, that she couldn't bring herself to admit she and the company duped the men, and contributed to making Miriam's life Hell. It's funny how lots of production companies get into shit like this, whether it's for reality TV or documentaries. They often in various guises come across as dishonest or shady in their intent. An industry of seeming sociopaths.

I wonder if the men apologise to Miriam for how they treated her, or showed some contrition/remorse before she died.

I don't know if it is just in the UK, but reality tv has been dubbed a 'theatre of cruelty'. In many such shows, the audience is invited to react with ridicule, amusement and so on, but the contestants in some are deceived, or invited to be cruel -in the first series of The Traitors, for example, one of the traitors persuaded the others to vote off the contestant who had a physical disability, using it as a way of undermining the trust that might have kept her in. In the Celebrity shows, humiliation is an important part of the deal, but in most cases -I'm A Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here!, and Celebrity SAS they know it in advance.

I am not going to say it is naive to think otherwise, but ever since Big Brother in 2001 showed it could make a profit, reality tv has established itself as a key component of the viewing agenda -if you don't like it, you can always flip to another channel or turn the tv off.

Did Miriam do it not knowing the risks? I think she was 'savvy' as the producer said, she already knew how some men react when they find out they are with a Trans person like her. But the care she received during the show, and especially when the shit hit the fan was poor and that I think did contribute to the feeling Miriam may have had that she was exploited for someone else's gain, receiving little reward herself, that they just didn't care about her. But it must also be said: nobody forced her to do the show.

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Well, quite a few Love Island contestants have said they've suffered from depression or other mental health issues since. Caroline Flack killed herself due to depression and stress from hosting the show. So clearly there is some shadiness there, even though it's not limited to the UK.

Yes, she freely chose to do the show. Doesn't mean the fallout from it is not the production company's issues. Both she and the guys were victims, even though they were perhaps the more obvious victims at the time. Neither Miriam nor the men were celebs at that point, and those who go on Celebrity Get me out of here know they are being mocked or paraded due to their status. Very few have come out of it saying they weren't, and those who have complained have cited bullying or meannes from the other contestants. Not the same thing IMHO. I dont' watch reality TV, it's cringe as shit and just low brow entertainment.

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I get the suspicion she was murdered. At the least, she was in some shady trafficking business when working in Las Vegas. She even worked in London for a time. Not implausible that some of the goons whom she knew in Vegas could have tracked her down to Mexico.

Terrible shame. She got chewed up and spit out by the system, like many others have been. The guys deserve sympathy too.