trannies with real jobs

[tsntx]

Weren't you leaving the forum after 2000 post?

whats the matter bitch cant handle someone calling you out on your bullshit?

and read the thread again douchebag and youll see ...."im not posting after 2000 if some rules arent implemented and things stay the way they are" the rules havent been ironed out yet but they ARE in the works and a lot of things that i didnt like have changed... so like i said above "you keep opening your mouth and ill keep helping you stick your foot in it."

[dc_guy_75]

are there any transexuals with real jobs or professions or do they all live of porn and prostitution?

Most all of the girls I've known have had "real jobs", do you think all t-girls are prostitutes?

Take your question and go fuck yourself.

[buttolino]

was a post-op transsexual who is working as a Nurse here is England. There is a thread with pictures somewhere on this board. Called Leanne Holmes............

[Steve-Russell]

Try this link

http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conw...Sgallery1.html

Plenty of successful Tgirls out there

Steve

[TrueBeauty TS]

Try this link

http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conw...Sgallery1.html

Plenty of successful Tgirls out there

Steve

Already posted on page one, Champ. But I agree, it's a very good site.





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[odelay24]

Unisex wrote:
Some of them do work. But, they are minority as some of the ladies here pointed out. They are in the Health care market like you wouldn't believe and they in the Retail market for chain stores such as Macy's and Filenes and Bloomingdales. I see a few common ones making their way to work everyday and sometimes on site as well.

But, aesthetically, they aren't on the same scale that you see posted up in the forum. Would make sense if you're only making so much an hour, the womans transition can only move as fast your financial income does.

So, $12 an hour @ Macy's dealing with Irate customers. Or, $350 an hour where she can dominate some bottom boy?

People need think realistically.

tell you what... when you wake up, think realistically, and get off a porn board and open your eyes... ill start to beleive what you say... same goes for "ts jamie" or w/e... just bc YOU do something doesnt mean everyone does, just bc every escort you meet is a transexual does NOT mean every transexual is an escort. just bc you ASSUME every HOT girl is an escort does NOT make it true. just bc you beleive something doesnt make it real or factual... while it may be no secret that i escort here and there as a hobby for the last few months... im in no way dependant or doing it as a profession. i have 2 really good jobs and both pay more then double "$12 @ macys" and one of them happens to put me at macy's often... starting out as a makeup artist for MAC is $16.50... i make a lot more as a national artist and get to travel and go to cool places like movie sets, pro-photoshoots, video sets... etc etc. my best friend rachel is the counter manager for Yves St. Laurent @ Nordrstums where she makes $25+ and my other good friend lexi is a counter manager for Nars @ Neimans and she also makes $25+

do these look like non-passable 40yr old beasts to you? didnt think so. so take your ignorance to somewhere it might not get proven wrong.

*edit* see post below for pics

Thank you! I was going to say the same.

And look, to everyone else. I don't want to judge people.
I will say, though, that money isn't everything; just because selling your body earns you lots of money, it doesn't justify it.

I understand if you need money for medication, hormones or whatever else it is that I have no idea about; You have to do what you HAVE to do.
But to earn the money just because you WANT a trendy car or a big apartment is something altogether different.

Personally, I would always rather being dirt poor and knowing I have not degraded myself, than living more affluently with less respect for myself.

Though, this all depends on wether you consider selling your body as being degrading or not.

[tsntx]

Unisex wrote:
Some of them do work. But, they are minority as some of the ladies here pointed out. They are in the Health care market like you wouldn't believe and they in the Retail market for chain stores such as Macy's and Filenes and Bloomingdales. I see a few common ones making their way to work everyday and sometimes on site as well.

But, aesthetically, they aren't on the same scale that you see posted up in the forum. Would make sense if you're only making so much an hour, the womans transition can only move as fast your financial income does.

So, $12 an hour @ Macy's dealing with Irate customers. Or, $350 an hour where she can dominate some bottom boy?

People need think realistically.

tell you what... when you wake up, think realistically, and get off a porn board and open your eyes... ill start to beleive what you say... same goes for "ts jamie" or w/e... just bc YOU do something doesnt mean everyone does, just bc every escort you meet is a transexual does NOT mean every transexual is an escort. just bc you ASSUME every HOT girl is an escort does NOT make it true. just bc you beleive something doesnt make it real or factual... while it may be no secret that i escort here and there as a hobby for the last few months... im in no way dependant or doing it as a profession. i have 2 really good jobs and both pay more then double "$12 @ macys" and one of them happens to put me at macy's often... starting out as a makeup artist for MAC is $16.50... i make a lot more as a national artist and get to travel and go to cool places like movie sets, pro-photoshoots, video sets... etc etc. my best friend rachel is the counter manager for Yves St. Laurent @ Nordrstums where she makes $25+ and my other good friend lexi is a counter manager for Nars @ Neimans and she also makes $25+

do these look like non-passable 40yr old beasts to you? didnt think so. so take your ignorance to somewhere it might not get proven wrong.

*edit* see post below for pics

Thank you! I was going to say the same.

And look, to everyone else. I don't want to judge people.
I will say, though, that money isn't everything; just because selling your body earns you lots of money, it doesn't justify it.

I understand if you need money for medication, hormones or whatever else it is that I have no idea about; You have to do what you HAVE to do.
But to earn the money just because you WANT a trendy car or a big apartment is something altogether different.

Personally, I would always rather being dirt poor and knowing I have not degraded myself, than living more affluently with less respect for myself.

Though, this all depends on wether you consider selling your body as being degrading or not.

i dont think your statement is fair... if your ok w/ someone selling THEIR body for ANY reason, regardless if its soley to transition/ put food on the table or if its to live a desinger label lifestyle, then you should just leave the statement at that... no stipulations "except when you just want nice things"... bottom line is that is still THEIR body and they have every right to do w/ it what they want and do whatever they want w/ whatever that may bring them beit designer shoes and purses or breast and bread.

[SarahG]

just because selling your body earns you lots of money, it doesn't justify it.

IMO it is a completely legitimate field to work in. Just because it is generally illegal in the US in recent times doesn't mean it is something that needs justification any more or less than any other random job (and before anyone asks; no I am not nor have I ever been an escort).

[peggygee]

I'm going to be un-customarily brief, because I'm on my lunch break
at work.

Some of them do work. But, they are minority as some of the ladies here pointed out.

Either you have drawn the wrong inference, or I am mis-understanding
your statement. I'm not reading in this or any other thread that the
majority of transwomen are engaged in the porn or escort field, but
rather that the majority are in other occupations.

They are in the Health care market like you wouldn't believe

I work for my Regions largest Health Care system in the Information technology field. So, I generally support a lot of systems (70,000 to the network) . There have been more than a dozen occasions where I've dealt with a Transgender woman who was a CNA or HHA or phlebotomy, or Pharmacy technicians ,etc.

People need think realistically.


Meaning, if you think that transgender women are in some full force corporate take over, you're mistaken. It's very difficult to find a job that actually pays a well to do wage or salary. So an alternative such as escorting may need to be chosen.

I think that you may be coming to a faulty conclusion based upon your
interactions with transwomen. You have encountered a dozen or so
on the job, you have perused a porn board, you may have even met
a few in the real world, but I am going to re-iterate that your overall
exposure to transwomen has been somewhat limited.

Tranwoman are a diverse population, with some working in blue, pink,
white collar realms, as well as the sex industry. They work in health,
retail, technology, academia, basically they work where any other person
would work.

But, aesthetically, they aren't on the same scale that you see posted up in the forum.

Meaning, they don't dress up in Highest heels or the most designer outfits, etc if they are coming to work to work. They put on scrubs or what-ever conservative outfit attire they have to. Obviously little detail features give them away on the job. But, what I'm saying is, they don't look like some runway model.

That statement I am going to chalk up to your perhaps not using the best
wording to express your sentiments. If someone is in the industry and
they are doing a photo shoot, they are going to have their hair, makeup,
and wardrobe done accordingly.

Women that are going to their 9 -5 will also dress appropriately to that.

I think where the dis-connect is happening for people is that we assume
that the people that we know in a certain arena are reflective of all the
people in the group in its entirety.

For example if you work in IT, you my mostly know other IT workers,
if you are a cop, you probably know alot of other cops and hang out
with them in your off duty hours.

If you are an transgendered escort, you will very likely know a lot of
other TG escorts. If you frequent TG porn sites, you may erroneously
assume that all transgendered women are escorts.

It is only when you have been exposed to a large cross section of trans
women over a period of time that you may be able to make an accurate
assessment.

There are many transwomen who are off the radar, who live in varying
degrees of stealth, often not even known to other transwomen.

So once again, to re-iterate to you and others, the transwomen you may
know of may either fall into two categories, highly attractive sex workers,
or transwomen who do not pass very well.

However the reality lies somewhere in between.

Well gotta go, have to get back to work.

[peggygee]

I beg to differ with Peggy - but studies have shown that between 30 and 50% of all transsexuals (M-F) work in the sex industry.

And the "studies" are worthless BS.

And I'd say it's higher than that, more like 70% in many cities.

Others are older folk who transitioned on their jobs as engineers and professors and live this perfect little life.

Not to Diss Jenny Boyland... and the TS doctors and nurses out there, but let's get real. Most non sex worker TS's earn less than $15,000 a year.

Here's a link to a study done in San Diego last year. The ONLY recent definative data. And it's WORTHLESS.

http://www.justatransgirl.com/SanDiegoNeeds.pdf

Read page 40. Out of 136 people interviewed they interviewed 3 sex workers. Can anybody say - bullshit.

Same thing with the studies quoted - one was done in 1998 in SF (TEN YEARS ago), another in Houston where 67 TS's were studied.

67 - out of what? An ESTIMATED 750,000 plus transsexuals in the United States.

If only 30% are sex workers that's a QUARTER MILLION transsexual prostitutes.

Most are young, I'm an anomally. Most have no education and NO OTHER OPTION. Most don't earn what the superstars earn. Most street girls seem to have drug issues.

LE is only interested in putting people in jail for percieved "crimes" executed in private between consenting adults. Nowhere that I am aware of is there any program to help girls get out of the biz and into high paying career jobs.

We had a DR. at the local clinic suggest my partner and I should break up trade in our luxury apt. in the better part of town and get rooms in the San Diego slum where most of the trannies live, and work in some kind of service job - not that we could get hired. THAT's considered support.

If you want to get girls out of the business give them education, training and paths into carear jobs at the median average wage, which in San Deigo is $60,000 a year. Then with TWO incomes they can afford to buy a car, and a middle class house, and take a vacation occasionally and stay at a Holiday Inn instead of the Hilton.

It can't be done at a MacDonalds salary. And in So Cal unless you are latino or other foreign worker you simply cannot get hired. And without experience you can't get into management - and very few places will hire a TS for a management job.

All those great computer science jobs are going to India - or what they do now is they bring the Indians here at 1/2 what Americans used to make. So that's pretty much shot as a career.

I used to make $125 an hour writing database software in 2000 - the same work is now going for roughly $15.00.

My partner and I wanted to open a little food booth at various farmers markets and community events - since nobody is going to hire us. Well, let's see the markets (which can be quite lucrative) laughed at me, told me to call back in a YEAR. I've treid to get us into every festival in the county (about 20). It's always the same, anything that you might possibly be able to do ten people are already doing it, they have years long waiting lists for spots.

We've looked into opening a couple of franchises - one needs $250,000 min the other $750,000. Hell, if we had 750 grand we'd retire and move to the mountains. Even if we could get an SBA loan... I found a great location for a sandwich shop the other day in strip mall in San Diego - where it would be perfect. They want $8,500 a month rent for a space about the size of our living room.

So yeah, I'm a porn actress and a prostitute. And considered a piece of trash by most of the trans "community" who isn't in my field, and the to appease it's fetish, the government spends inordinate amounts of public funds to put me and my friends in jail for the crime of having sex with other adults in private.

Sorry I tend to rant about this stuff. Especially when people without a clue discuss their fabulous lives as transsexual brain surgeons or whatever.

But at least I get paid to have sex with my lover and not too many of you can say that!

Sigh,
TS Jamie

I 'm still reading the study, so I can't comment on it.

250,000 escorts, crikey I think we are approaching market saturation.

I wonder about your figure of 750,000 transseuxuals. Are you referring to
the total transgendered and gender variant populace, if so, when you get
a chance please take look at these figures

http://www.hungangels.com/board/view...=12755&start=0

I'm also gong to have to beg to differ with the 70% figure in the cities.
I may or may not know some or all the same transwomen that you know,
but of the 70% that I do know, they are not engaged in the sex industry.

I would agree that there are many tranwomen that have lead very
sheltered and cloistered lives. And au contraire to some of the
transwomen that you have alluded to, I by no means have lead a
sheltered life.

My roller coaster life has taken me to some heaven like highs and some
hell like lows, literally and metaphorically. During that ride and currently
I have known transwomen from all stratas, like I was telling my good
friend Unisex.

We also agree that there is a problem, we further agree that education
and a decent standard of living would go a long way to rectifying it.

My question though to you or others with a vested interest in this problem,
is how to we go about making that happen.