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08-26-2008 #71
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Obama, and here's reason number 76 why...
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08-27-2008 #72
I'm voting for Obama. I think he's better for the job.
Although I wouldn't feel as bad about a McCain presidency as I would about a 3rd Bush term
Anyways, I feel relatively safe about McCain's age. His mother is still alive, believe it or not, and in good health at 95.
Not that it doesn't exempt McCain from any of old age's effects.
There was a time when your mind wasn't out of control, every memory and confession pouring out of your soul, like a pill you couldn't swallow so it swallowed you whole, another lie hard to follow 'till it followed you home.
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08-27-2008 #73
Yeah my great grandma lived to be 101 and she was swatting t imaginary flies and talking to her dead husband for the last 10 years of her life.
McCain and his want for more war scres me and should scare anyone of draft age.
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08-29-2008 #74
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Originally Posted by goldensamba
Obama is nothing special, a total politician. If you don't understand this then you are just another sheep blindly following. If you believe in his policies, or support him solely because you think he is the lesser of two evils, then fine, but lets not pretend there is anything special about him.
BTW, 27 Democrats in the Senate voted for the Iraq war, including Biden, Clinton, Edwards, Bayh, Dodd, Kerry, and Reid. They had the same evidence that Republicans Senators had. Again look at past wars, Democratic presidents got the US involved in WWI, WWII, Korean War, Vietnam, and our military action in Kosovo under the last Democrat to hold the Presidency, and I know what your response is to this so let me say I can point you to some good resources exposing the myth of the "Just War".
Some of you really need to wake up, the Democratic Party (and GOP) are not your friends, they both use FUD and emotional pleas to persuade you to keep them in power and in control. Currently Democrats are all about class warfare rhetoric, and Republicans are all about Islamofascism fear mongering. Sure they differ on some issues, but both parties believe in big obtrusive government, the Democrats at least admit this (hell, they seem to brag about it) while the Republicans pretend they are fiscally conservative.
I have been watching and listening to some of the convention, and its funny to here the Democrats talk about how Republicans are tools of "Special Interests", and I gather most here believe that as well. So this might come as a surprise, but the Democrats are just as much beholden to special interests as the Republicans are (although a slightly different mix), in fact the Democratic Party gets more money from special interest groups than the Republican party.
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08-29-2008 #75
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27 democrats voted to give the president the authority to go to war in Iraq. They did not vote to go to war in Iraq. Its a big different. Some indeed wanted to go to war but others were trusting the president and the info he was giving them.
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08-29-2008 #76
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Originally Posted by Baron Of Hell
All this seems to miss the key point that Democrats say they were "fooled" into supporting the war, and to that I say even if WMD were found in Iraq the war would not have been justified. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 and was not a direct threat to our security.
I think you are fooling yourself if you think the Democrats are the party of peace. They have no problems with starting wars, and IMO even worse using the military for "peace keeping" and "nation building". They might be right (in hindsight) about Iraq being a mistake, but it illustrates how quick many of them were to support the war on the flimsiest of reasons.
When it comes to war mongering, the current neo-con Republicans are #1, but the Democrats are clearly not far behind. You might find it interesting that the "old right" Republicans of the past were non-interventionists, its only in more modern times with the rise of the neo-cons that they have become the main supporters of war, regime change, etc. There is an active movement by some conservatives to retake the Republican party from neo-cons and bible thumpers, unfortunately I think this is a lost cause as these two demographics seem to have a strangle hold. Some conservaties actually want Obama to win, not because they agree with any of his policies, but because they feel an Obama win might diminish the power of the neo-cons and religious right.
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08-30-2008 #77Originally Posted by PapaGrande
And by the way, I am an independent. At least I was until this latest crop of republican idiots decided our country should be run based on religion and hatred for people who aren't white males.
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08-30-2008 #78
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Wow we have some "pink" republicans......wow!
"How you doin!"
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09-01-2008 #79
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Originally Posted by Beagle
they go oh Obama makes a good speech even though all his speeches are a in sharp contrasts to everything hes done in his whole life they will vote for him
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09-01-2008 #80
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Well the house thing is simple. People think McCain is not that good with money. He had 200k credit card debt and his top economic advisor didn't think there was a problem with the economy. A person that doesn't know how many houses he owns might not think the economy is in bad shape.
So basically it is just one more thing that makes him look like the wrong choice to fix the economy.
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